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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Bassmann1968 on September 22, 2018, 05:10:17 AM »
Hi and welcome to the Garden,
I would not just split the signal and give it to each power amp.
It depends on the power amps.
Real power amps usually have the option to pass the input signal to another amp which is the best option.
If you ever come to that sonic excersise let us know and what kind of amps you use.
A. To give you advise according the amps you use
B. To run for shelter :D
Rock on!
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Paulinderwick on September 22, 2018, 04:36:12 AM »
Sounds like world domination is in the plans... at school in the 60's we dreamed of chaining 60 watts amps together so the second would be 60 x 60, and the third 60 x 60 x 60 et seq - mwah hah hah!
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Rip Van Dan on September 22, 2018, 12:27:05 AM »
Hey Djiboo,

Yes the headphones out is post EQ.  If it wasn't post EQ, you wouldn't be able to tell how changing your EQ is changing your sound.  And of course you want your slave amp to sound like your master and your master needs to pass on any EQ changes you make.

I would guess that it wouldn't matter about splitting it more ways, but I'm not sure.  Best to wait for Armin (Bassmann1968) to chime in on this part. 

However, I'm with T-man on his comments.  What sonic exercises are your contemplating doing that you would run 3 separate amps with their own cabs for?  Do you have roadies and are you bringing an extra truck??

Dan
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by TobiasMan on September 21, 2018, 06:20:41 PM »
Might amp 2 have a headphone out that matches the function of the one on the WT800?


BTW, what sort of volume madness are you contemplating!!!  :-X
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Djiboo on September 21, 2018, 02:47:19 PM »
Thank you ALL for the replies and warm welcomes!

When setting up the WT as the 'master' by routing the signal from the headphone jack to the input of the external power amp, would the headphone signal originate after the post-eq return? I assume it would.

More on the theoretical side, are there signal splitting adapters/circuits that do not jeopardize tonal quality? Imagine for some silly reason I want to go

WT ->
      -> poweramp 1
      -> poweramp 2
      -> poweramp 3

The story about the Eden -> GK made me smile, thanks for sharing haha.
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Rip Van Dan on September 21, 2018, 02:06:16 PM »
i had to laugh the first time I slaved a GK amp and cab and it sounded like an Eden set up because my Eden amp was the Master.  Then I went and fiddled with the preamp settings on the GK just to confuse people who were trying to figure out how I got that sound out of a GK.  Since I had bypassed the GK's preamp, I could turn any knobs on it I wanted and it wouldn't make any difference.

I currently use my WTDI to bypass the preamp of a small Peavey Combo amp I am relegated to using as the backline in the brewpub where we host an open mic each Friday.  Nice to hear a Peavey sound like an Eden too!
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by TobiasMan on September 21, 2018, 12:05:23 PM »
The other advantage is that your slave amp will sound like an Eden, as you will have bypassed its front end and simply used the power section to drive the other speaker cab.  8)
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Eden General / Re: How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Rip Van Dan on September 21, 2018, 12:00:18 PM »
Hi Djiboo

Welcome to the Garden!

Both methods you mention will work with your WT800, and I've used both.  However, sending a signal out of your effects-out will necessitate the use of a Y cord to get the signal sent to the slave amp as well as back into the power section of your WT800.  Otherwise you will have nothing coming out of your WT800.

A FAR BETTER WAY to do this is to just run an instrument cord out of the headphones jack of your WT800A and into the effects-in/return of your slave amp.  Using the headphones out gives you a number of advantages.

•  it's much easier to set up
•  it's a hotter signal than the one coming out of the effects-out/send.
•  After you originally set it up and turn the master on the slave up to a good balance with the cabs driven directly by your WT800, you never have to adjust the master on the slave again.  Any volume change you make with the master on your WT800 will automatically take place on the slave at the same time.

If you set it up from the effects-out/send, and then want to change the volume, you would have to adjust the volume on both the master amp (your WT800) and your slave amp.  Using the headphones out allows you to just adjust the volume once on your WT800 and your slave automatically compensates...

YES! this is way cool and works with almost all the WT amps but it does NOT work on the WTX amps.  In fact it will send them into protect mode.  So you have to do it old school with the WTX's.

So the simple solution is that you send the signal directly from your WT800 to your slave amp's effects-in, balance the volume between the two sets once, and then control everything including the volume from the WT800.  If sending it into a power amp, just plug it into the power amp in the same spot you would plug in a preamp signal.

Hope this helps,
     Dan



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Eden General / How to chain WT800 -> power amp(s)
« Last post by Djiboo on September 21, 2018, 10:06:51 AM »
Hi All!

First post, long time lurker and appreciator of the conversations!

I have a WT800a -> 210xst@4 || 118@8. I'm plotting to move the 118 to another power amp to give it more power, maybe getting another 210xst@4 to have a nice pairing of cabs on the stereo power amps of the WT.

How does one generally 'chain' power amps?

I've heard things like..
1. Use the headphone jack
2. Use the post-eq send

I'm using the post-eq loop right now for a limiter & alembic superfilter, so I kinda need to get that signal back into the post-return of the WT, otherwise the WT mains wont have the limiter & sf in the mix, but if I go back into the post-return how do I get a signal to the power amp? It occurs to me, but also with some concern, .. do people split their signal after the post-eq send with a 'Y' adapter?

One power amp under consideration is the WT1250, where it appears, but I'd love someone's confirmation, that you can pass the line level thru the power amp, so could I go WT post-send > rack units (limiter, sf) > power amp [line] in > power amp [line] out > WT post-return?

Very much appreciate the read, and any feedback!
Cheers

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Eden General / Re: NOISE..WTP600 Pro
« Last post by Bassmann1968 on September 17, 2018, 04:59:05 AM »
Could you take a picture of the inside and send it to me?
I need to see the transformer and wiring to the PCB.
Thanks in advance.
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