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Eden General / Re: Introduce Yourself
« Last post by Rip Van Dan on September 18, 2017, 03:47:48 PM »
Hi Will,

Welcome to the Garden!

Although they were discontinued a year or two ago, you can still find the WTX500 around.  That is the smaller form factor class D amp that Eden made before the new Terra Nova designs.

Dan
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Eden General / Re: Introduce Yourself
« Last post by Paulinderwick on September 18, 2017, 03:03:39 AM »
Hi Will and welcome - I must say I agree with you on the size of the TN series - given that they replace the WTX, have similar power, are also a Class D amplifier why they have to be so wide I don't know.  It would fit, just, on the top of my EX112's but the WTX series were just so damn handy... we need to post in another forum though for this - there is one here about what we'd like to see...
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Eden General / Re: Introduce Yourself
« Last post by alaskaleftybass on September 18, 2017, 12:53:26 AM »
Greetings, I'm Will Hanbury, Jr. from Sitka, Alaska. I've been playing for 45 years, played professionally for 20 of those years. Now I'm in IT for the local government. As mentioned already, my IT job is nice but not as fun as playing bass in a band.

I came upon Eden last year when a fellow member from Talkbass.com recommended I try out the Eden EX110's from a store in NJ that had a sale going on. I got them for a good deal. When they arrived they were small cubes and I was skeptical. So I stacked them and plugged in my Gallien Krueger MB500 and WOW! What volume for a pair of small speakers.

I was so impressed I ordered the Eden MicroTour then the Eden EC8. I returned the MicroTour but kept the EC8. That little combo is incredible for $99. It has a fantastic tone and that famous Eden quality.

Last night I did my first large room band gig with the GK MB500 and two EX110's stacked. The club is a two story building and the top floor is a restaraunt, the bottom floor the pub. A local guitar player was upstairs and said he felt the bass through the floor while we were doing a sound check. He came in and listened and told me the tone and bottom were incredible and he couldn't believe the bottom end and tone coming out of two 18" cubes. He came later to listen and enjoyed listening to the band.

So, there it is. I love Eden equipment now. As time passes I hope to be adding more Eden stuff, I'm interested in the new Terra Firma heads.

If I had one big wish for Eden, it would be that they get into the Micro D market, like the Gallien Krueger and Trace Elliot stuff. The new Terra Firma stuff is just big enough that it wouldn't fit on my EX110's, it would be nice to see a 500 watt Eden that's about 8 x 10 x 4" and about five pounds. I'll bet Eden could put out a super high quality micro amp. They used to with the WTX series. Go Eden!

Will
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Eden General / Re: Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by Rip Van Dan on September 15, 2017, 01:30:29 PM »
Actually the question about the WT550 operating at 2 ohms is an easy one .  After Marshall bought Eden, they "weren't comfortable" saying that the WT550 was capable of sustained 2 ohm operation. 

That actually seems pretty silly to me because the WT550 had been capable of and had been used at 2 ohms since 2003 with no problem.  And the only change they've made to it was to turn the fan around so it blew air out, and open up the area where the fan was mounted so there is no backplate covering it but a fan cage instead - much better ventilation that way.

You'll also note that they changed the message "minimum 4 ohms bridged" to "minimum 8 ohms bridged on the WT800C's that came out after Marshall bought them.  and of course they changed the "minimum 2 ohms" marking on each channel to "minimum 4 ohms".  They didn't change the amp at all, just the text on the back panel.  Folks had been operating those WT800C amps at 4 ohms bridged since 2005 when the WT800B was first released (my manual has a revision date of July 15, 2005). 

As a side note though to give some consistency to Marshall's decisions about ohms load, their new WTP 900 does NOT operate bridged at 4 ohms and there's no way to make it do that. The speaker connection system they devised prohibits it.  And the WTP900 has much better ventilation than the WT800C did.

Still when you have a history of the WT550 running at 2 ohms for almost 15-years and the WT800C (and B model) running at 4 ohms bridged for a dozen years, it seems pretty silly to me to back away from those proven specs.

Dan
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Eden General / Re: Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by jcadmus on September 15, 2017, 11:17:04 AM »
Eden has a habit of changing the specs on their gear for no visibly apparent reason. I don't know whether it's truth in advertising, OCD, actual changes to the gear over time, whim, or some combination thereof.

Example: They used to say that the WT550 was capable of operating at 2 ohms; now they don't. I don't think they've fundamentally altered the amp, however.
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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) / MOVED: Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by Bassmann1968 on September 14, 2017, 07:18:44 PM »
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Eden General / Re: Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by TobiasMan on September 14, 2017, 03:01:51 PM »
Both versions covered 30 - 14k hz and were within 1 dB of each other in their sensitivity rating (the earlier one being 1 dB higher).


If the cab is in good shape, you should be just fine.  Save your money!!!  ;)
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Eden General / Re: Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by Beej on September 14, 2017, 09:10:03 AM »
Okay so that's the only difference then? Still has the same 30hz rating on the low end and everything? If so that should pair up nicely with my 410xlt and Wt800B. I may go ahead and pull the trigger as the thing is like new but a few hundred dollars less Than the new one I had on order.
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Eden General / Re: Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by TobiasMan on September 13, 2017, 04:46:33 PM »
Up to 2007 they were rated at 450 watts.  In 2008 they were listed at 500 watts.


I don't think that the 50 watts difference in rating is going to make a noticeable difference in volume.


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Eden General / Eden 210 xst new vs old
« Last post by Beej on September 13, 2017, 01:51:50 PM »
Hey I was just shopping for an eden 210 xst to go with my 410 xlt and my Wt800B. I came across a seemingly well priced one but it is rated at 450 watts instead of 500. It is my understanding that this is an earlier model and I was just curious if the wattage is the only variant? I was thinking of hopping on this one as I have another one ordered that is brand new but it has been on backorder for 2 months and pushed back several times so at this point there is no telling when I may get it so I may cancel that one. Can any of you offer any advice?
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