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Offline pshep68

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« on: April 22, 2007, 09:19:54 PM »
I'm not sure if this question is appropriate.  If it's not, I'm sure someone will let me know and I will apologize.  Here goes ... What kind of money are you guys making at gigs ... just your cut for one night.  I'm just curious.  All you players who have day jobs ... I was just wondering how much extra your hobby brings in.

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2007, 09:27:45 PM »
-$8000/year

That's a minus sign... [:D]


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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 09:43:29 PM »
Let me get this straight. Some of you folks make money at this? Who'd have guessed? [:0][:0][:0]

The question is appropriate. I just hope my wife doesn't ask it! [:I]

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 09:43:52 PM »
quote:
Originally posted by RockNRollAl

-$8000/year

That's a minus sign... [:D]


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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 10:02:53 PM »
Well, maybe it's only half that... [:D]

This is just from Musician's Friend:
(doesn't include what I've bought in this forum and elsewhere)

Date         Product Sub-Total
04/11/07    $99.99
12/21/06    $199.98
12/21/06    $27.96
12/14/06    $15.99
12/14/06    $84.74
09/29/06    $863.06
09/27/06    $134.49
06/17/06    $5.96
06/05/06    $29.98
04/26/06    $759.99
02/07/06    $11.95
01/02/06    $216.24
12/26/05    $98.74
12/26/05    $142.24
12/23/05    $1,029.46
12/12/05    $44.99
12/07/05    $29.99
11/29/05    $98.65
10/14/05    $490.94
10/06/05    $9.99
10/03/05    $382.72
09/16/05    $49.99
07/21/05    $328.70
07/07/05    $420.97
06/19/05    $202.88
06/14/05    $458.24
06/13/05    $611.73
04/06/05    $1,116.50
02/02/05    $63.93
07/01/04    $237.85
06/19/04    $59.99
06/15/04    $203.89
05/28/04    $119.99
01/02/04    $14.99



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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 10:38:12 PM »
Al, will you be my gear friend?

Haha, just kidding.  Now I'll answer the question.

I played in many bands over the years and one thing I noticed - The pay just doesn't seem to go up.  I make approximately the same money now that I was making 30 years ago.

Most reciently, I toured about 50% of the time, with a country band playing larger dance halls and clubs in Colorado, New Mexico and Wyoming.  We had a female singer and 4 musicians.  On average, we made $100 per person per night with rooms provided.  Just about enough to starve on.  Our fiddle/guitar player did not have a regular job and he grossed anywhere between $12k-18k per year.  We played regularily at certain places, some an 8-hour drive away, and made about $85 a night for a 3 or 4 night gig.  Once we played 13 nights in a row, had a sh*t-hole for a hotel and made $76 per night.  If it wasn't for our singer's Father buying the gas and paying for bus and repairs, we wouldn't have made anything.  One more thing, once we opened for Randy Travis.  Band members made $300, the singer took $1,200.

I used to live in the Aspen, CO area and had a buddy who played in a blues band.  Their weekly gig was at a small bar in Aspen.  They walked away with a minimum of $300 per man every week. The tip jar could raise that to as much as $500 a man.  They got into doing some private parties and weddings in Aspen and made anywhere from $500- $1,200 per man per gig.  My band averaged $200 per man.  There were also a lot of places that paid nothing and you had to rely on a tip jar.  That could be as little as $25 a man.

I have found that the bar business is dying a slow death, as far as live music goes anyway.  The latest blow was the no-smoking ban in Colorado.  Typical bars in Denver pay $300-$400 per night for the band.  There is a large country honky tonk in denver, about 1-1/2 acres under roof, that has national acts every week, like Merle Hagard, Teri Clark, Trick Pony, etc.  They have about 6/7 house bands that play 5 nights a week.  They are usually playing to 800-3,000 people.  Three or four of the house bands come from Dallas, TX which is a 13 hour drive.  House bands make $150 per man per night there and it is a tough gig to get.

There are also plenty of festivals and fairs in my area.  They usually pay anywhere from $100-$300 for local bands, but they are a one shot deal.

There are 2 or 3 of the top local bands in our area that make $300-$500 per man per gig, and a few like the Fray, who have gone on to National recognition, but that is another story.

As for my next gig, I've been thinking about putting together a party/wedding band.  If you are good and professional you can make on average $200-$400 per man per gig.  There are a lot of very good local musicians to draw from.

So thats the story in my area.  I'd really like to hear from others.

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2007, 03:28:29 AM »
yep thats the deal roughly here too dwight
the smallest amount i have been paid was $90
the largest was $2000
but its around $150 to $200 per man

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 07:32:13 AM »
Depending on the venue anywhere from $100-300.


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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 07:35:02 AM »
QUOTE "Well, I play for free--I get paid to haul stuff around, set it up, and tear it back down at 2 am."


You to eh?


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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 08:12:22 AM »
My band's best paying gig was $100.  We did a Halloween show, got screwed for time, performed terribly, only played 4 songs, hated the venue, and were more than pissed at the end of the night.  It's like they bribed us to keep from spreading a bad reputation for the venue, saying, "We loved you, please come back!" to keep us happy.  Total crap.  Pay us a $1000, you still treated us like crap.

Our favorite, most memorable gig we played for charity.  And it was a worthwhile, noble effort.  No gig will ever compete with that, because we did it for Dimebag.


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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 09:11:55 AM »
I play for a hobby, and I think the most I've made in a year is about $3500. There's not enough of a scene to do a whole lot in Phoenix, and I ain't moving for my hobby. I prefer to pick the people I play with and the places I play so that the night is fun for me. If I make any money, great; if not, I had fun playing out with some friends.

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2007, 09:53:16 AM »
My 3 piece band plays a couple of clubs regularly.  One pays $300 a night, but supplies free food and unlimited drinks.  The other pays $400 a night.  Since we run our own sound I feel like I'm doing pretty good for a 2 night weekend.  
I'm in another band that has 5 people and will certainly be paying a soundman.  I don't like to think about how little money I'll be making in that band. [:(]

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 10:19:03 AM »
I made far better money playing clubs in Florida (average $100-$150 per night) from my late teens until I was about 32. I moved to Nashville in 2000 to be a sideman for a new artist, the money was OK for about 2 weeks ! It was all down hill from there. Fortunately, I had been in an industry for 10 years that I was able to go right back into. So the moral of this story is "don't move to Nashville to make money as a musician", their are some smokin' players that play for tips around here. I currently write and play all contemporary Christian music with my best friend and sometimes we do it for no money (notice I didn't say free, because we are always blessed) and sometimes I can buy gear afterwards [:)]

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 04:17:09 PM »
I usually make $40 - $50 for a bar gig; that can include a meal and some drinks, but lately a lot of venues just give the entire band a tab of about $100- if you don't get to the gig early someone else may have drank up your dinner!

Private parties (weddings, events, etc.) are definitely more lucrative, I find I usually get at least $100 for something like this and more usually between $150 and $300.  The most I ever personally made for a gig (this was 2 years ago, not last year) was $750- playing for a lawyer's 50th birthday party up in Atlantic City NJ.  That gig included a great dinner and an open bar, but no hotel room- we ended up driving up from Charlottesville (~6 hours), playing the gig, and going home afterward, getting back to C'ville by 7 AM the next morning.  I had to take a vacation day from work, so from an accounting viewpoint that would have been a cost.

I play with one band that is getting into festivals, but we're very new so we don't make much, if any, money at these gigs.  For us they are loss-leaders.  Besides, it's fun to play on big stages for big crowds and to enjoy artist perks at a music festival.  I'd definitely be attending some of these festivals as an audience member if we weren't playing, so I can count the cost of the ticket as payment.

Last year I averaged ~1.7 gigs per week, and taught two bass students less than 1hr per week (due to holidays, missed lessons, etc), and made just about the same amount of money off of both endeavors- ~$2000/yr.  If I was going to make a living off of music, I would definitely line up at least 20-30 students (or 10 - 15 hours a week of teaching), probably more.

As someone above noted, this price point seems a bit static- I was getting just about the same amount of money per gig 10 years ago, except back then it was almost all bar gigs.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 06:30:40 PM »
i make absolutly no money playing on the side.  I am 17 and still go to school and most of my gigs are at my school or others school but dont get me wrong ive done my share of our of school gigs and i dont get paid for any of them.  I guess i cant really expect to get paid cause im only 17 but some times i really feel i deserve a little dough

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