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Offline coop

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« on: January 30, 2007, 08:25:20 AM »
Lane, a comment in another post got me thinking of an idea for the product section.  How about a "greatest hits" of amp/cab combinations in the "How to Choose the Right Setup" section so newbies can more easily select components that are complimentary, based on user experience.  The ones that come instantly to mind are the 800/410 and the 550/212 combinations.  The permutations could be expressed like:

Greatest Hits - 800/410; 550/212
Small Clubs - 405/210XST; WTX/112/112
Big Rigs - 1205/410/410; WP100/1550/810/810
Versatility - 550/212XLT/210XST; 800/410/210XST

I'm sure the Edenites here wouldn't be shy about offering their favorites.  Also, user comments could be added to flesh out the different combinations regarding versatility, portability and power, to help a user make a choice.  That seems to be a common discussion on the forum for potential customers and it might be good to bring that out to the high-level company site first.

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Offline Vinny D

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 09:11:23 AM »
They where supposed to do something like this on the main site a while ago.......

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeek9mb/vinnysbasspage/

Offline johnpbass

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 11:17:28 AM »
To borrow from DOS wildcards (I'm showing my age) how 'bout this:

212XLT / *

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 11:19:33 AM »
Seriously though, that's a great idea!

I like the suggested format for showing the combinations.

John P.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 11:59:49 AM »
Versatility, as I see it right now, means owning a 212xlt and a 112xlt, not a 210xst.  Not that I'd run the two cabinets together, but they compliment each other seperately.  I've been playing around with this, and I'm finding that I'm more able to coax a 212-ish tone out of the 112xlt than I am a 210xst.  This is mostly because no amount of EQ tweaking will remove the puncy, responsive nature from those 10" drivers.  While the voicing is different between the 212 and 112, this is somewhat fixable with Eden's 5 band EQ's.  Now that I'm able to do side by side comparisons and learn the EQ settings to create a similar tone, I think it will be very possible to carry just a 112xlt to small gigs and still get that 212xlt tone I love.

Right now, I'm somewhat questioning my need to even keep the 210xst.  It feels as heavy as the 212 to me, and doesn't sound quite as good.  It sounds great underneath the 212, no doubt, but I think that's just because it adds more oomph and bottom.  I think a second 212 would do an even better job adding oomph, and without altering the tone of the rig.  Also, dual 212's would stand up higher, look bigger, more impressive, etc.  I'm really wondering if I'll be going that route in the future.  I'm going to wait this one out for a while because I don't want to make a rash decision.  

In reality, a single 212xlt covers every gig I typically play with ease.  The only time I might need more is when I play outside.  I'm wondering if the 210xst's big bottom might be a better match in that case over a second 212xlt.  I don't play enough of this type of thing to really know.  Even outdoor gigs get PA support, so it's probably nothing but a mental exercise anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 12:24:08 PM »
you can always sell your xst[:I]Hint hint

Yamaha RBX6JM(6),Attitude Std5 (5),80's Charvel (4),WT-1205 ,D410XST,???
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 12:35:11 PM »
Barry, drive over with your 1205 and I might let you take the 210xst and 550 home with you in a trade.  How's that for taking your hint?
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 01:12:17 PM »
Wow - that's a very interesting trade proposition!

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Offline LaneOnBass

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 01:17:27 PM »
Man, thanks for bringing this up. With everything that happened last year, the Create a Rig Section got lost. And I like your Greatest Hits category... that's pretty cool.

So... I hereby recommit myself to getting that section of the site done.

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2007, 02:51:10 PM »
Jason,
i thought 2x 212's would be great too, which it is, but I only used them outside. Inside I tried to use them and nearly blew the paint off the walls... so eventhough two were sitting there looking cool, only one was hooked up!!!



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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 03:23:10 PM »
That looks just awesome, Terry.  Are they 4ohm cabs or 8?
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Offline ProDigit

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 03:35:24 PM »
I guess 2x 4ohms would make more sence on a WT550!
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 09:35:01 PM »
550/112/112/112  [and you can still add one more, but even the 3-stack is nuts]
550/212/112/112

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Offline RDUB

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 06:52:08 AM »
Not to forget the the popular and versatile 550/210XLT/210XST!

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WT-550...210XLT(8)...210XST(8)
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WT-550...210XLT(8)...210XST(8)...210XST(8)...Aguilar DB750