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Offline 63p-bass

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Just saying.... 'Hi'
« on: July 08, 2019, 10:40:45 AM »
It seems that there has been less activity on the forum for a while now. I still drop by from time to time to read the new posts.
So I just wanted to say hi to all you forumites. It's been a milder summer than normal here the midwestern US this year and I'm glad for it.
And thanks for the sage advice you've given me over the years.
Happy Summer!
Jim

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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 01:44:44 PM »
Good to hear from you Jim

Happy Summer right back to you!

Dan
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 03:41:31 PM »
Hi Dan! I get to see you on FB once in a while, and that's cool.
Hope your band is doing well, and hope the TN226 is working out for you.
Jim

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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2019, 02:16:02 AM »
Hi Jim,
close your eyes, slap your bass three times and think to yourself... :D
Happy Summer!
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2019, 09:48:50 PM »
Hi Jim,
close your eyes, slap your bass three times and think to yourself... :D
Happy Summer!

Ha ha! Good one Armin.
Jim

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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 02:20:54 PM »
Hey Jim,

Yes, I'm doing well and the group is still working.  I'm very specifically using that TN226 at the open mic Friday Nights that we do at the Dreadnought Brewery in Monroe, WA.  Here's a shot of it set-up there:



I have to be a little careful with it because of the way the place is set up inside.  Went from the stage being across from the bar to being past the end of the bar up against a wall by the door.  So instead of playing into a shallow wide room, we're now playing into a narrow long room.  Problem with that is there is about an 18" beam across the ceiling right at the front edge of the stage. It stops about 1/2 the sound we put out.

With the old set up, using their Peavey 112 combo, I could turn it up to about 10 o'clock and cover it just fine.  From the other stage I had to turn it up to 2:30 or 3 o'clock to get the same sound coverage.  So I'm running this guy with the master set up around 2 o'clock and if I'm not careful, I'll push  it into clipping.  I actually triggered the protection circuit with it once.  All of a sudden, dead silence, which was no fun.

I normally turn the compressor off, but found that turning that auto-compressor on kept those momentary spikes from clipping and haven't triggered the protection circuit since.  I have the gain way up around 3 o'clock because my passive Jazz won't even trigger the set-gain light unless it's set all the way up.  So, I'm pushing it pretty good, but it's working fine.

Dan
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 05:23:29 PM »
It is amazing how a ceiling beam reduces the amount of sound you put out - trouble is that venues don't realise how their rooms can affect the sound and think it is the fault of the band rather than the position in the room that they want you to play in...
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 07:25:43 AM »
Dan, the TN226 looks good on that cab. is it a 12" speaker?

I love the D112's that I have. One 8 ohm cab is enough for many of the rooms I play, and two of them can handle bigger rooms and outdoor gigs.

It's weird how a given room can affect the sound. Business owners go for aesthetics and have no idea how they can affect sound.
Jim

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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 08:39:31 AM »
That's a EX112. Awesome cabs and nice to transport.
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 07:05:36 PM »
It is amazing how a ceiling beam reduces the amount of sound you put out - trouble is that venues don't realise how their rooms can affect the sound and think it is the fault of the band rather than the position in the room that they want you to play in...

Yeah Paul, in this case we have to be about twice as loud.  After we play the first hour, I'm out in the audience - usually getting a beer and some food - and as soon as you pass by that beam, the sound really drops.  My guess is the bartender wanted to be farther away from the band plus I think they managed to squeeze in an additional table or two the way we have it set up now.

There's another place we play once every month or two that has real high ceilings and they actually put sound absorbing panels up there to help keep the sound from bouncing too much.  Not a lot of places think of that.

Dan
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'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 07:44:28 PM »
Dan, the TN226 looks good on that cab. is it a 12" speaker?

I love the D112's that I have. One 8 ohm cab is enough for many of the rooms I play, and two of them can handle bigger rooms and outdoor gigs.

It's weird how a given room can affect the sound. Business owners go for aesthetics and have no idea how they can affect sound.

Yup, like Armin said, it's an EX-112 cab.  That's the E-series, which is a lot less expensive than the D-series.  They are made in Asia and use a "whizzer cone" for the tweeter instead of a separate horn like the D-series does.  I was really apprehensive about getting one at first but our friend Paul (Paulinder) here on the forum has had a couple of them for years and swears by them.  So I bought one...and then I bought another because the first one sounded so good.

I will often use both of them but have to run them through my WT500/800 because they are 4 ohms each and none of my amps will go down to a 2 ohm load.  I like to use them anywhere that I need to lift either to a height (one stage was 30" tall with no steps before they lowered it) or for some other reason don't want to pull along my 410 cab.  Like every 112 I've ever heard, they always sound better when used in pairs.  Below is a shot of one place I used them.  Without the separate horn, they have such a small footprint that I turned them on edge with the ports to the right so my amp didn't hang over the sides too much.  Still gave it a "T" shape but it sure sounded good.

You can actually see that whizzer cone nestled inside the woofer cone on the top EX-112.  It sounds far better than I expected!

Dan
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Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 10:58:44 PM »
Dan - I'll bet they do sound good with your WT500/800. I haven't run my WT550 at 2 ohms yet. I bought my cabs in 8 ohms, and they're plenty loud when I use both of them with the 550. But....if I had a couple of 4 ohm cabs.... ;)

It's good out you're playing. I hooked up with a group a couple months ago called Great Blue Heron. We've been playing a few times a month outdoors, at a marina on the Missouri river, but it flooded there five weeks ago. The water has gone down, and they've cleaned it out and torn out walls, disinfecting, and treating for mold. It was a huge mess! Now inspectors are holding them back from re-opening. I've missed three gigs there already and can't wait to get back. Still looking for a second, and maybe a third band so I can fill up my calendar. Am really hoping to make the best of retirement by playing as much as possible.

Here's a pic of a jam session a while ago.
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Jim

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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 11:12:23 AM »
Even better than a couple of 4 ohm cabs, would be to add a couple more 8 ohm cabs!!!  Then you'd have your 2 ohm minimum, but pushing air through 4 cabs.  That would move a LOT of air and be LOUD!  8)

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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 12:36:34 PM »
Even better than a couple of 4 ohm cabs, would be to add a couple more 8 ohm cabs!!!  Then you'd have your 2 ohm minimum, but pushing air through 4 cabs.  That would move a LOT of air and be LOUD!  8)
TMan, I agree. I’d love to have a cab for every occasion. The main reason I use the 12’s is they’re lighter and I have back problems. I would like to have a 410 and a 15 cab, and have looked at the new E series. Maybe if start playing a lot more I can justify some new cabs. I could afford them if I played more too.
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Re: Just saying.... 'Hi'
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 08:12:56 PM »
I suspect, like many here, we switched to lighter cabs and heads after our first hernia operation - I know I did.  Played a gig tonight with the WTX260 and a single EX112 and a bassplayer friend of mine who'd come along was sooo impressed with the sound I was getting.  Simple really - Eden...
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