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Offline Rip Van Dan

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I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« on: January 19, 2019, 03:28:28 AM »
Well, guess what I found waiting for me this morning when I went outside around 10 AM...yup, you got it on the first try - a new Eden cab. 

So, this is what arrived this morning:



Paul, I blame a lot of this on you.  You were one of the first folks to report how nice the EX112 cab sounded and how much better they sounded with two of them.  Well I only got one, but it's all your fault.

As you may know, I have a set-up that I can take anywhere and never have too little for the gig.  So why would I get a little Eden 112 cab.  Simple answer is that it is all that I need for my normal Friday night gig.

We host an open mic every Friday from 7 until 9:45 PM at a nearby Brewpub.  We start off by playing a 1 hour set and then start calling up open mic sign ups. We'll back people up as needed.  If we have a lot of sign-ups, we may not play anymore that night.  More commonly we will play until 8; call up the various open mic sign-ups; and then play for another half hour to 45-minutes or so to close out the night.

The first time I played there, I rolled in my D.N.A. 410 and the owner said, "that's way too big for here.  Use that Peavey 112 we have sitting off the stage there.   Never could get a sound I like out of that Peavey, so I broke down and bought a WTDI (absolutely GREAT product!); plugged it into the Peavey's effects return and lo and behold I was getting Eden sounds out of a Peavey 112.

Well a couple of weeks ago the Peavey 112 disappeared from the club.  Come to find out it belonged to someone and they took it home.  Just ran my bass through the  PA system for a couple of Fridays, but decided I needed to get an Eden 112 combo or at least an Eden 112 cab to do it up right. 

Looked at the TN2251 but lowest price on it was $699 and more than I had or wanted to spend.  Thought I ordered a EC112 from AMS, but reviewing my receipt, I saw I had only ordered the cab and not the combo.  I went back to their website and there was no EC112 combo, only the EX112 cab. So I just waited for the order to arrive.

I took it inside of course and opened it up and here's my new cab sitting on top of my kitchen stool:



As you can see above this is the one with the whizzer cone (cone within a cone).  In spite of its size, it is every bit as solid as the rest of the Eden cabs.  The back has just one single 1/4" input jack, and no output jacks.  I got mine in 4 ohms and it will handle up to 300-watts rms.



It's small size really doesn't need two handles, so it just has the one handle along the back edge of the cab.  It's a metal handle and, since it weighs all of 30-lbs., it makes it very easy to grab that handle and go. 

One of the cool things about this cab is the way the corners are done to make it easier to stack.  Take a look at the two pics below.  One shows a raised center piece and the other shows the opposite corner with a raised border for the corner center piece on a stacked cab to lock into.  Those two parts of the corners are metal and the rest is the normal plastic/nylon corner.  Nice that the interlocking parts are metal.  Will probably be nicer when I get a second one...uh-oh, this new purchase already triggered more GAS!




So I used this puppy for our gig tonight and it worked well.  I pulled out my Eden Nemesis RS400 to power it because it had plenty of power - 400-watts at 4 ohms, and it is about 7-lbs. lighter than my WT500/800.  Of course if (when) I get a second one, I'll  have to use my WT500/800 and plug one cab into each channel.  Can't plug two 4 ohm cabs into my RS400 because that would put a 2 ohm load on it and my RS400 has a minimum ohms rating of 4 ohms.

Set up my gain first thing tonight and then used the RS400's one semi-parametric control to add 3 clicks of boost somewhere around 250Hz.  Initially cut the bass EQ by 2 clicks but after walking to the back wall and then back to the stage, I moved it back up to flat.  My bass really sounds nice through it with those settings.

We had three other groups come up and play tonight and of course, none of them brought a bass amp with them.  Whereas I won't let anyone use my bass, I figured as long as I had control of the amp settings, I'd let them go ahead and use it (really hard to let other people use your new gear!)   One of the other groups was a blues/rock trio that I also play in, so kept those same settings and of course it sounded great. 

A second group's Bass player had a 64 Jazz Bass reissue.  It had a really hot signal for a passive bass and I had to drop the gain a LOT.  It also distorted the speaker, so I dropped the bass EQ a bit and dropped the master.  Even with the bass cut back and the master dropped down a couple of clicks, it still wasn't very clear.  It never did sound nearly as nice as my bass, but with that same boost around 250Hz, it did fit in the mix nicely when the group played.  I did go back up and raise the master a bit though during his first song because he was a little weak in the mix.  After that it was good and they played a funk song where the bassist used some slap and that sounded good too.

 On the last band that was up, the lady bassist had a short scale semi-hollow body Lakland.  Had to play around a bit with it to get a good sound out of it, but at least it was not distorting.  Ran the bass EQ flat on that one and actually bumped up the normal mids EQ a bit too.

I really was quite pleased with its performance tonight.  This one little 12" speaker cab put out a surprising amount of typical Eden clear and full sound.   I never thought I would have to dial back the bass EQ on this but with one of the other basses, it was a must.  Of course, now I know that I will be getting a second one (All your FAULT  Paul!).  There's one place we play that has about a 30" stage with no stairs and lifting a 410 cab up on it is a pain.  With two of these EX112's though, it would be simple and I have no doubts it will easily cover this much larger club.

You might say I'm pretty pleased with my new little EX112!

Dan
« Last Edit: January 19, 2019, 03:39:27 AM by Rip Van Dan »
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5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 06:45:43 PM »
Dan,


Why don't you just stop beating around the bush and come right out and tell what you think of this cab??????   :D


Sounds like a lonely keeper that may just soon have a companion!  8)
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2019, 02:04:29 AM »
I'll try to put it succinctly, which is something I rarely do - This a great freaking little cab!

And yeah, you're right, he keeps asking me where his twin brother is.  He's sitting on top of my 410 in the closet at the moment so he doesn't get lonely, but he would really like someone his own size to "stack up with".

Dan
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Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2019, 02:23:50 PM »
Thanks for the review, Dan.
I certainly smell G.A.S. :D
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2019, 03:25:05 PM »
Yeah Armin, and here I thought, "I'll never need to buy anything else.  This set-up can play anywhere!"

And the answer is, "Yes, it can and I don't really need anything else, but when my regular set-up frightens the club owner, I could certainly use it.  And it is much lighter." So first I got the WTDI (killer - makes any amp sound Eden) and now that the backline amp is gone and I don't have a backline amp to plug the WTDI into, I should probably get a small something, "Oh, look! This little Eden EX112 should be just the ticket!"  And, of course, it was.

Two should do the trick I think, especially since I got the 4 ohm. Just use one with my RS400 (400-watts @ 4 ohms) or two by  plugging one into each channel of my WT500/800 (400-watts into 4 ohms per channel). 

I have come to the conclusion that I can always talk myself into more Eden gear.

Dan
« Last Edit: January 21, 2019, 03:27:38 PM by Rip Van Dan »
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Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
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spares:
Eden RS400, GK BK250, BPX115 cab, acoustic B410 cab, Sunn Beta 202 (2x12)

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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2019, 05:47:05 PM »
It is easy to do, isn't it, Dan  ;)
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2019, 02:06:13 AM »
Yeah, tell me :-))))
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 01:07:45 PM »
LOL...yeah, you are my role model for acquiring Eden Gear although I have a feeling I'll never catch up.

How about posting that picture of your Eden pyramid again?   It's been years since it was seen around here and it is quite impressive...

Dan
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Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
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Eden RS400, GK BK250, BPX115 cab, acoustic B410 cab, Sunn Beta 202 (2x12)

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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2019, 12:21:38 AM »
 ;D ;D

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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2019, 01:26:02 AM »
Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!  That's an Eden Pyramid!

Thanks Armin!  I always enjoy seeing that.

Dan
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Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
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Eden RS400, GK BK250, BPX115 cab, acoustic B410 cab, Sunn Beta 202 (2x12)

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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 03:18:13 AM »
When back home I plan on having a new picture.
Maybe a Eden/Gene Pool picture?
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 11:14:20 AM »

The first time I played there, I rolled in my D.N.A. 410 and the owner said, "that's way too big for here. 
Dan

Usually when someone says something like that to me I respond with something like "And you're using the wrong conditioner for your hair."
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2019, 12:12:33 PM »
Armin, did you ever use all six of those 12s at one time!!!!  :o


Or was that just registered as a earthquake on the EURO seismometers?
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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 11:16:26 PM »
When back home I plan on having a new picture.
Maybe a Eden/Gene Pool picture?

Yes please!

Dan
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Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
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Eden RS400, GK BK250, BPX115 cab, acoustic B410 cab, Sunn Beta 202 (2x12)

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Re: I blame Paulinderwick for this...or perhaps thank him...
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2019, 11:23:48 PM »

The first time I played there, I rolled in my D.N.A. 410 and the owner said, "that's way too big for here. 
Dan

Usually when someone says something like that to me I respond with something like "And you're using the wrong conditioner for your hair."

LOL... I love that!  I told him it sounded really good played softly too and he pointed to the little Peavey 112 Max, and said, "please just use that one."  Now I use my EX112 cab with my Eden Nemesis RS400 amp.

I probably should have bought the 112 in an 8 ohm because I'm going to get a second one and when running two, I'll have to bring my WT500/800 amp.  With the Gator roto case, it weighs about 10-lbs more than my RS400, but my RS400 only goes down to 4 ohm.  So I can't use it for two.  I can easily plug one into each side of my WT500/800, it's just heavier.

Dan
Rip Van Dan
Dan Gracia
'82 US-made Fender Jazz Bass with maple neck
5-string Rogue LX405 Pro (Surprisingly good "no-name" bass)
WT500/800 Highwayman (signature model)
D.N.S 410-8, Eden EX112 x2
Line6 G10s wireless
==
spares:
Eden RS400, GK BK250, BPX115 cab, acoustic B410 cab, Sunn Beta 202 (2x12)