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Offline TobiasMan

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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2016, 12:26:38 PM »
What are these?  Replacements for the Nemesis series from a few years ago.


Not much info on the amps - at all.  I assume they are based on the WTX series amps (500 watts and 225 watts)


p.s. they look a bit weird  ;)
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2016, 12:50:24 PM »
Fascinating - slightly heavier than the WTX but a lot wider so rack mountable I assume, more tone shaping, they seem to be between the WTX and the larger amps.  No 12" speaker option, only a 10" (4x,2x,1x) which is a bit of a surprise as many more people seem to be happy with the flexibility that 12" options give.  A weird look?  I like it - on a dark stage you know exactly where bass treble and the mids are from their placing on the fascia. The same sort of attention to detail seems evident from the back layout as well. When do we get to hear them????
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 12:53:21 PM »
Go to NAMM to check them :D
Nice tone control I see.
I will get more info soon.

Oh, there is a 12" combo ;)
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2016, 12:57:56 PM »
Yep - just seen the 12" combo, as there seems very little detail on it - I don't think it exists at the moment!. No weight which is the most crucial thing for us oldies.  I really like the look of this range it has been thought out ergonomically - I just wonder if traditional amp buyers will appreciate the design subtlety?  Maybe it's a European thing?
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2016, 01:20:42 PM »
No idea, i like it that way.
Clean and logical.
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2016, 03:00:04 PM »
Two bands of semi-parametric midrange EQ is a welcome addition.  More power would be good too--the Class D market is crowded, moving fast and the 700-900 watt power sections are pretty common offerings these days.  On-board overdrive (whether mild or all-the-way ferocious) is getting more common too.  I miss the "warm" switch on my WT405 and wish Eden had gone a little farther with it.  :(

Design is a matter of personal taste.  What every company wants is some of the Apple cachet.  You can argue that looks shouldn't matter but they do with many or most consumers.  Then there's the idea of keeping a traditional look or tie-in with popular past products.  I'm glad it's not my job to design how these amps should look!  ;)
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2016, 03:38:58 PM »
Clean and logical = european!
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2016, 12:47:57 AM »
Nice work Eden !!

The Two bands of semi-parametric midrange EQ is  More flexible at the disire tone
More power would be good too !!!! .
It should have been  the TN501 the small amp ... and the TN 1000 or 800 the NEW big boy .
800-1000 watt power sections are pretty common  these days from other competitive companies

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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2016, 06:36:36 AM »
Whilst on the subject of bags and whether there will be one two thoughts - if you considered buying a WTX bag but haven't get one now if there is still stock available, but secondly, and maybe more importantly - the new amps are twice as long as they are deep (roughly) and unless Eden make a dedicated bag it may be very difficult to find a suitable case to benefit from the lightweight nature of the amp.  For example, I was never able to get a bag for my WT330 and got tired of humping it in a rack case which added a lot of weight.  Like many I have found that a DJ mixer bag is just about ideal and just about the right size, but how many similar bags are designed for 12.75" x 6.9"?
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2016, 11:40:37 AM »
There will be a bag from Eden for those amps!
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2016, 12:00:02 AM »
Wow, something about the look of these I really like. 

Is the power section digital or class B?
How much are these?
Are they on sale anywhere yet?

I wish the 500W version came in combo.  The layout looks just as friendly in a vertical position as it would be flat.  I fear the TN2252 would be under powered for an extension cab if digital.
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2016, 03:08:14 AM »
Hi,
The power section is Class D (which is not digital!) for sure not Class B!
In the USA the TN226 will street at $499 and the TN501 will street at $649
They will hit the stores soon.

The amp power is fine, because there is no extension cab connection. Just for an external cab, which will switch off the internal woofers.
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2016, 11:01:46 AM »
Hmm, hopefully they will come out with a combo for the 501 that can drive an additional extension cab.  That would be great for me, leave the extension at the rehearsal space and travel from my home studio to rehearsal space with the combo.

Besides the sexy look, any other differences between the WTX and the Novas?
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Re: NEW PRODUCTS FOR 2016 TERRA NOVA
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2016, 11:11:32 AM »
Eden try to maximise the power output of their combo's - you can add an extension but it will disconnect the internal speaker - the internal speaker is 4ohm so adding another speaker without switching off the internal will give a load of less than 4 ohm and fry the amp.  So it's an either or situation.  As surface area will always add more perceived volume than wattage you could go for a separate 4ohm 410 - for example the TN410 - handles 600 watts and 4ohm is available.
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