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Offline Bassmann1968

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Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« on: April 15, 2015, 10:39:09 AM »
Hi guys,
I will go to the Frankfurt Musikmesse.
I will meet the brand managers!
Any questions I should ask?


Of course I will post some pictures and test some gear.
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2015, 03:01:23 PM »
Thanks Armin. (pics & videos please, pics & videos please)

Will Eden go in a wider music reproduction? per sec, studio monitors, p.a. systems, etc. or stay with the low end?

A dual channel in the future?




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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2015, 11:25:08 AM »
Armin
Thanks for the opportunity  to deposit some questions ,and  some proposals !!!

1  Are still in use the world tour amps  ? or will be unavailable until the exhaustion of stock ??

2a  The new  wtp series  900 -600- pre amp  must be have on the front panel "the knob balance " for tuning  of the  cabs..... this is very very useful..!!
the   balance  knob at the rear panel of the amp  is difficult  reach it and adjust  it while playing ....
 So it's like to downgrade the  use of  the balance knob .....

2b The red knob " treble" In the upper row  ...must be in the same bottom  line with all red  knobs ..!!!   "old style of wt amps MUCH better looks !!!

3 One perfect  idea is the new wtp preamp together with two 800 digital amps in  the same unit
for lightweight   with    big  sound  ...
the new generation  of wtx1000n ....worth it i believe

4 Post us some video with  the new sound of the wtp amps ..
 
Thanks
Tom
« Last Edit: April 16, 2015, 11:42:09 AM by TOM »

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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 12:12:14 PM »
Armin  any news from Musikmesse ???

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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2015, 08:56:38 AM »
I will post some soon, I just enjoyed my weekend ;)
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 02:41:21 PM »
Here some pictures

E-series, great gear for a small price!



WTX series



I saw a gig bag :D



Those are some professional foot pedals, they sound very musical and have wide range of tone. More to come in the future!



Tested the PRO series. Man, that stuff is awesome sounding! To the WT series lovers, yes they still sound like an Eden. But this thing can do more. Ampeg sound guys will love the tube feature! The compressor works great. Indicator lights show you when it is on and engages. Very easy to set up. The Mute is muting. Completly! The indicator for the Mute is a big help, it starts blinking when you play and the Mute is still on. All indicators are one the footie dal as well. Btw footpedal, it connects with an standard instrument cable! Broken cable, longer cable needed, no problem!



Isn't that something we wanted all the time? Now we know where the signal is coming from and going to.



WTP inside, I had a close look and I love it. All the best for us bass players.



A fine selection of US build D series cabs.

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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 02:44:26 PM »
Will Eden go in a wider music reproduction? per sec, studio monitors, p.a. systems, etc. or stay with the low end?

Low end!

A dual channel in the future?

The new WTP is a dual channel input amp! When you pluck in two basses both inputs become active.
« Last Edit: April 19, 2015, 02:46:40 PM by Bassmann1968 »
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 03:02:26 PM »
1  Are still in use the world tour amps  ? or will be unavailable until the exhaustion of stock ??

The WTP will replace the WT series

2a  The new  wtp series  900 -600- pre amp  must be have on the front panel "the knob balance " for tuning  of the  cabs..... this is very very useful..!!
the   balance  knob at the rear panel of the amp  is difficult  reach it and adjust  it while playing ....
 So it's like to downgrade the  use of  the balance knob .....

I never saw someone using the balance knob while playing. Do you? I see no real reason for that!

2b The red knob " treble" In the upper row  ...must be in the same bottom  line with all red  knobs ..!!!   "old style of wt amps MUCH better looks !!!

It is not possible to change that now. Opinions are different about that.

3 One perfect  idea is the new wtp preamp together with two 800 digital amps in  the same unit
for lightweight   with    big  sound  ...
the new generation  of wtx1000n ....worth it i believe

The WTP series is build for the PROs. They don't care much about the weight, but about big sound! More to come about other amps.

4 Post us some video with  the new sound of the wtp amps ..

It was hard to take a proper video because of a lot of backround noise, but I took one and it is on my You tube channel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOCEYU_lgo&feature=share
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2015, 04:05:31 PM »
1  Are still in use the world tour amps  ? or will be unavailable until the exhaustion of stock ??

The WTP will replace the WT series  ....
The silver lining to this is the inevitable closeouts.  That's how I got my discontinued WT405 for $495.  Anyone who sees a closeout, buy one then post the link for the rest of us!  ::)
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2015, 04:03:05 AM »
Thanks for your feedback Armin and  for your answers  !!
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I never saw someone using the balance knob while playing. Do you? I see no real reason for that!

When playing with one cab  sure don't exist real reason for that !! ha ha
Strange..... yes for me is  very useful .( especially when i have two cabs with different or the same  ohm and "tone specification")!!
While playing .. When I hear  muddy sound  with  my band or when i hear  problematic bass  or lack of bass ....  with one  or two click or more left or right  solve me the  problem ...tuning my  bass sound depending  from  the room and  the result who i  want  to give   ...and  i 'm feel happy !!
 All the Eden  guys know " the eden settings",  most of the time flat  and zero or some click for the  "enhance knob "
Ok   "the balance" knob    is not usable like  the 'master volume" knob  .. the most usable knob on eden ....ha ha
 But even once  or each time who one player  will need to regulating it  at any stage or room to be played      "the location"  and the "minimum  size" of the knob is uncomfortable and prohibitive  this is my opinion

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The WTP series is build for the PROs. They don't care much about the weight, but about big sound!


Ok  this is one side of the coin ..... is correct .
the other side saying (today needs... lighter amps  with big sound )!!
Armin you know  very well  such amps  wtx1000n   Gene Pool 1350 and other brands   etc.

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More to come about other amps.

Any news about  new models  amps ?????? or is top secret ???


Thanks Armin  who share us  your video .!!!

any new video  with better sound quality  is welcome ..!!!

Best Regards
Tom 
« Last Edit: April 20, 2015, 04:10:55 AM by TOM »

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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2015, 06:47:13 AM »
I use the EQ to adjust the room!
That way I can do the same thing with any cab or cabs!

New products are of course a secret but I will give information as soon as possible.

Unfortunately there was no option to have a good video. But I saw a recording team running around, maybe some stuff is showing up on YouTube soon.
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2015, 09:31:48 AM »
Thanks Armin for your answers
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I use the EQ to adjust the room!
That way I can do the same thing with any cab or cabs!

ok this  is  a way" the most right"    for a precise and accurate adjustment  ..

the other way  for quick  adjustment is the balance control  "like the tone controls " who have  the wt -1000 or wt-1250 power amps is a solution who work for me ...

i think  Dan (one moderator of forum)  is  using  and  referred many times for  the "balance knob"  "very useful " to  adjust the  boomy   GK 115..
i believe  that the founder something  knew  much more to put the knob in the front panel of the amps ....
anyway  I'm Eden fan

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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2015, 09:38:20 AM »
Yes, Dan is right, but most people do adjust that one time.
Because they don't have as many cabs as you and me :D
But I don't use that knob at all, because I drive almost any combination in bridge mode (no function of balance knob)
and all my cabs do match in the combination I use them.
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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2015, 09:54:39 AM »
Have a good time my friend  :)
keep on explaining  :)

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Re: Frankfurt Musikmesse 2015
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2015, 10:54:23 AM »
No answers for the next few hours I am going to see Marcus Miller :P
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