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Offline Funkerator

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Rebuild your old drivers option
« on: September 18, 2012, 06:15:50 PM »
Hi Guys!

I recently got turned onto this fella in Ohio that builds/rebuilds and customizes speakers. His name is Jason and he can be reached at pmreproductions@neo.rr.com.

He has the materials and know how to modify or repair pretty much any speaker and gives you options as to what parts to use, etc.. I had him beef up a pair of tired 1060xl drivers that had creased cones. We opted to use a thicker, ribbed JBL cone assembly, aluminum formers and chunky voice coils.. the resulting speakers sounded great and held up really well under excessive bass and probably nearly doubled the power handling of the drivers and changed the impedance from 4 to 8 ohms for me. He also "hot-rodded" a 12" xl driver for me with a chunky hemp cone and higher power handling parts, but I haven't actually listened to that one yet...

Once I was confident that he did quality work and liked a challenge, I had him do up one of my coaxial 10" drivers from my CXC210 combo to match the 1060xls he did for me. He was quite impressed with the speaker design because of the exponential horn expansion profile inside the diameter of the core

and the fact that the voice coil literally has a .003-.004" clearance, which means he had to be PRECISE in building this one...

Well, I'm happy to report that the modifications turned out great and now my CXC210 cabinet cleanly handles bundles more low end than it did with the original drivers, and wired up at 4 ohms, eats up 400W with ease and begs for more!


So, If you are considering replacing or repairing any of your speakers, I Recommend contacting Jason to discuss your project/needs. He is very knowledgeable in everything speaker and his rates are very reasonable.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 02:00:36 AM by Bassmann1968 »
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Offline Bob Cruz

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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 07:35:54 PM »
That is a service Edenites have needed for a long time.  Thanks for the recommendation Funkerator!  I'm not surprised about the tight tolerances in that Eden speaker--that's one way to get more efficiency / loudness from the same watts.  JBLs are known for it.
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 07:56:42 PM »
He hot rodded you............a chunky hemp cone?????

Now that could give a whole new meaning to "releasing the magic smoke!!!"  :o :D :P
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Offline Bassmann1968

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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 11:36:15 PM »
Cool, thanks for that feedback!!!
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 03:53:24 PM »
Thanks for this article; very helpful!
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option -followup
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 04:34:05 PM »
 :D Here's a follow-up post on my replacement drivers project. I contacted Jason, got the new hot-rodded hemp coned speakers, performed the installation, and fired up my rig. The difference was amazing; a whole quantum leap in performance capability. I can't recommend Jason too highly. I have sent the originals back to him for the same modification; and when I get them back, they'll go in my other 210XT cabinet. My plan is to send the third set to him as well so I'll have som high powered spares. If you want to be all you can be, give him a shot.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2012, 04:37:34 PM by Bassjinn »
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 09:45:05 PM »
This info needs a sticky. About once a month someone drops in looking for speaker repair/replacement.
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Offline Bassmann1968

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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 02:00:51 AM »
This info needs a sticky. About once a month someone drops in looking for speaker repair/replacement.

Done!
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2012, 09:47:55 AM »
Can he do some Eminence 18" subwoofer drivers?  I'd rather ship it to him than to California.

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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 04:32:32 PM »
Bassjinn

I recently had a pair of d-xlt 10"ers rebuilt here in Richmond, VA.( upstairs at Richmondsound) I bought on Ebay. The guy took almost a month to turn them around, partly due to a faulty part number on the driver, and he had to reorder the correct rebuild kit. Anyway, he did them for about $70 a piece, which didn't seem to be unreasonable price wise.

I'm thinking about pulling my original drivers out and sending them off to be rebuilt as spares. Can you share your experience as to Jason's turnaround time and cost? Thanks.
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 05:20:11 PM »
For Eden users in Britain I always use Wembley Loudspeakers - who aren't in Wembley but West London - always a good job - http://www.wembleyloudspeaker.com/
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 12:09:04 PM »
Hola Edenites!

Jason's turn around time was very quick.  I'm only 2 states over from him, so I got all my drivers back about a week to ten days after sending them to him.  His prices were good, but vary depending on the components used and I had some special requests for improved power handling and voice coil impedance swapping, etc..  You should shoot him an email with questions regarding your specific needs and usage, he usually replies in 24 -48 hours.  I've been kicking around the idea of having him re-do my Eden 18" to 4 ohms.... but if ain't broke...
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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2012, 06:27:05 AM »
...break it!

Then you have an excuse!!!

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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2012, 01:06:52 AM »
Weber in Kokomo, Indiana is another excellent reconing option.

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Re: Rebuild your old drivers option
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 01:50:15 PM »
I just got my 12" driver back from Jason (the tech mentioned in the original post).  I had no idea where to send my driver for repair, so I went with Jason based on the reviews here.  He is a nice guy, real professional, and he knows what he is doing.  I just popped the driver back into the cab and it sounds awesome.  I highly recommend Jason for speaker repair.  He returned all of my emails and got the speaker back to me within 2 weeks  He offers lots of modifications too, but I didn't go down that road.  I have two d112xlt cabinets and wanted the speaker to remain as close to stock as possible in order to match the tone of its sister cab.  Its nice to have found a high quality speaker repair tech.